[strongSwan-dev] HA resync issue

[Emeric POUPON]

Hello,

Do you have some news or new ideas about this issue?

Would you like that I fill in a bug report about it?

Regards,

Emeric



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De: "Emeric POUPON" <emeric.poupon at stormshield.eu>
À: dev at lists.strongswan.org
Envoyé: Lundi 1 Septembre 2014 10:52:27
Objet: Re: [strongSwan-dev] HA resync issue

Hello,

I don't really know how it is actually done in the code, but it may be possible to reuse some IKEv2's UDP reliable mechanisms (Retransmission Timers, Windows, etc.)

I implemented a simple bandwidth limiter on the ha_socket, but it is quite complicated to properly set it up in order to provide the 'zero drop' feature (I have to set very conservative values).

Best Regards,

Emeric


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De: "Thomas Egerer" <hakke_007 at gmx.de>
À: dev at lists.strongswan.org
Envoyé: Samedi 30 Août 2014 00:08:19
Objet: Re: [strongSwan-dev] HA resync issue

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Hi Martin,

On 08/28/2014 12:51 PM, Martin Willi wrote:
> Hi Emeric,
> 
>> I did not test using 1K or even 10K+ tunnels but the UDP based solution seems to be unable to provide the significant reliability needed for these cases.
> 
> I agree. For the setups I have used, a dedicated fast link was sufficient to have packet drops at an acceptable level. But certainly that could be very different on
> other setups, especially if the number of connections increases.
> 
>> I understand switching to a TCP based sync would require a significant work but it seems to be quite unavoidable.
> 
> Yes, HA definitely should have a reliable transport for sync messages. Not sure if TCP is the correct choice. At least for the heartbeat messages, we need controllable
> timeouts, which is difficult to implement with TCP.
> 
> So we either would have to separate heartbeat and synchronization functionality, or extend the UDP based protocol by message throttling and/or
> acknowledges/retransmissions. The latter could be achieved by extending the ha_cache class that already stores some messages for re-synchronization.
Just my 50 cents: having two seperate sockets for a) heartbeat (UDP) and
b) sync messages (TCP) sounds quite promising since you can hide all
this in ha_socket::push based on what needs to be pushed.
Extending ha_cache to have timers and retransmits (also queues for messages)
sounds like reimplementing TCP in user space.
But if there may a third option we haven't thought of: Martin will surely
figure it out ;)

Kind regards and a nice weekend

Thomas
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